honestly, i dont think it has anything to do with religion...my friends didnt CHOOSE to be gay..its not like one day they were just like "oh hey, i think im going to be gay"
one of my friends went through a really hard time when she realized that she might actually be gay.
it sucks that so many people are against this....theyre people too

Regardless of if you personally think being gay is right or wrong, or if it's against your personal beliefs or anything, you have no right to tell anyone else what they can and cannot do. You may find it disturbing or a bit weird, which I honestly can understand a bit, but that doesn't mean you should be rude and heartless about it.

I have some friends and even family members that are gay, and I don't approve of it one little bit.

But, just because I don't like the sin they commit, doesn't mean I don't like the person.

i dont think just because someone is gay is a reason to dislike them personally or the type as a whole.

its kind of like judging people based on what they look like (skin color or how they dress) or based on their religion or what not.

just because someone likes someone of the same sex isnt a reason to dislike them. they're people too that if you got to know them could be just like you.

for example say you meet someone with a different skin color than you and you stereotype them or judge them before geting to know them. then one day you cross paths and become best friends. the skin color suddenly doesn't matter anymore.

thats how i feel about gay people. if you happen to meet one, don't shun them away, get to know them as the person.

like what kait said, i feel like myself nor anyone else can tell someone who they can and cannot love. who the hell cares, they aren't affecting you. i have a gay best friend, best person ever, and i honestly had no idea they were gay until he came out. but that doesn't matter.

and i'm catholic but just because my friend tells me he's gay im not gunna just throw away a friendship like that. its redic.

i dont even know if this made any sense...

I never once said that I disliked the people for what they did. All I said was that homosexuality was a sin, the end. I don't treat them any different than any other person, so don't think that. Oh, and one more thing, I think it is the biggest piece of crap when people say that you are "born gay." CRAP CRAP CRAP.

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Originally posted by Niki Starship.:
I have some friends and even family members that are gay, and I don't approve of it one little bit.

But, just because I don't like the sin they commit, doesn't mean I don't like the person.

I completely agree with you.
I don't like it or approve of it, but I treat them the same as I treat anyone else.

This was seriously just a fight waiting to happen. Even if this is SYM, I really don't think such controversial topics should be posted. It just ends up hurting people's feelings.


Also, it DOES have to do with religion. Some religions don't "agree" with people being gay, so if that's the reason why Stephanie doesn't believe in it you can't say that it doesn't have to do with religion. To some of us, it does.

Actually, I think we're all mature enough people (okay, at least the people who've posted so far. Not necessarily all of the boards) to discuss things like this. I can't stand it when people opt out of a discussion because they think it's going to get too heated or something. If it does, let it be dealt with then. But until then, it's just a discussion that might open other people's eyes.

Back to the topic, though, and what Stephanie said. You may not believe that people are truly born gay, but you also have no proof either way, unless you take people's word, but that doesn't really hold up much in this situation because you never know who is lying or twisting the truth.

Gay people are just another group of people, much like straight people, married people, black people, white people, teenagers, elderly, students, workers, etcetera. They should be treated no differently as far as basic respect goes. And honestly, I think calling them "gays" is even on the line of being rude about it. They shouldn't be treated differently, and that means that they shouldn't be looked down upon, but they also shouldn't be given little random advantages in things either. They should be treated just like you, me, and everyone else.

To me, homosexuals are the same as everyone else. I don't frown upon them, I actually admire the fact they can be open about it and not care what others thing. It's got to be hard on them with so many people against what they are. Last year in bio we did the whole chromosomes thing and I'm pretty sure one of the things we talked about is what makes a person homosexual, all the X and Y chromosomes. I'm not going to say anymore on that because I can't say I paid complete attention and I don't want to go off on something that I know nothing about. At my school we have quite a few of homosexuals. They are really open about it, almost too much. There is a point where I think they should stop. Holding hands, fine, but once they start kissing and stuff I think it should stop. Before you jump on my back about that, I feel the same way about "straight" couples. It grosses me out and honestly, no one wants to see that. It's almost like they're bragging about what they have, and it goes the same way as homosexuals. You are who you are, and you don't need to brag about it.

Just because your religion tells you that people can't be born homosexual, doesn't mean anything. I'd hate to be the one to say this and get attacked, but your religion isn't everything. Not everyone believes what you believe, and there is no concrete proof aside from the bible in which you choose to believe, that tells you that it all happened. There are homosexuals I know that are still Christian/Catholic and I know that is one of the religions against it. There are people out there that believe in a religion but not all parts of it. That's how I am. I don't believe everything the church tells me. To me, that's kind of the same thing as a dictatorship. I want to believe what I want to believe, and if that means that there are things that are in the bible that I don't believe, then that's how it is. And if the God you believe in didn't want homosexuals living here, they would not be here. I'm pretty sure the bible talks about accepting diversity, but at the same time frowns upon homosexuals. I never understood that. How would you feel if there was a religion against everyone who wasn't homosexual?

Off of the whole religion thing, some people just look down upon it the same way that they look down on pregnant teens, just as an example. People have to stop wanting the world to be perfect. There is not a such thing as perfect. Everyone has a different idea as to what perfect is. I like the idea of diversity and don't understand why everyone can't accept people as they are.

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I actually admire the fact they can be open about it and not care what others think.

That I don't get, to be honest. Why admire a gay person just because they can be open about it? That'd be the same thing as admiring a straight person who is open about it, or a pregnant person who doesn't hide it, etc.